Question:
Why do Israelis continue to deny events from their short history when there is undeniable proof to say?
bulldog brit
2012-05-08 14:54:13 UTC
otherwise. An example was the question relating to the massacre of Deir Yassin earlier where a number of thumbs down were given despite an apology given by their own leader Ben Gurion . Do these people REALLY believe this and other similar events never happened or are they just too ashamed to admit the truth.
Fourteen answers:
?
2012-05-08 15:50:12 UTC
Can one really believe that it didn't happen. I mean it's pretty much fact that several criminal Zionist groups roamed the area during the mid to late 40's. Jews can't deny that at all. Even today Zionist take any land they want in the West Bank without any authority, bully people around, and chop down sacred olive trees at will so why should one believe that such a thing didn't happen. Even in the Bible it clearly states that it is gods command that Jews take the area by reckless force and do a complete genocide. The Old Testament is full of New Supremacy. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the Torah and Talmud as well. I have heard and seen videos and books mention this although I have no first hand knowledge. Matter of fact Protestant Reformer Martin Luther, whether you consider him a fraudulent anti-semite or not, did extensive studies in the Talmud and found it full of Jewish Supremacy passages.



All in all, I don't see a reason why anyone should believe Jews in this matter or any other. Hamas might be a little crazy, I wouldn't doubt it much I'm sure much of their anger is justified.



@Esther

thanks for the link. Jewishvirtuallibrary sounds like a very impartial source of information.



@vivalaraza

the second video was cool.



@short and sweet

you really are as dumb as you sound. Nuff said.
?
2016-12-02 08:01:05 UTC
How previous are you? I pity thee. For the - how many hundred years of Rome? - the Roman Empire elevated with out pause, removing each thing that even resembled a gamble. The Continent of Africa has been in a state of PERPETUAL conflict, famine, and starvation. the closest component to genocide i will call handed off there, one tribe went in and did an 'ethnic' cleansing on yet another. Massacred thousands and thousands in below a month. women people, babies, men. Earthquakes in California and Japan are commonplace. and you forgot the Earthquake in Italy. And the hundred or so as that handed off around the international below six months in the past. there grow to be even one in south Texas. Texas would not get earthquakes. All you are able to desire to do is watch PBS for long adequate and you will see dozens of categorised classified ads approximately babies starving around the international 'deliver money' and to no longer dis you or something, yet for all of my existence I rather have seen many many bugs. it is commonplace. in line with possibility the city insecticides are not as much as par from now on? have not you heard with regard to the influenza outbreak? Killed quite a few hundred thousand people right here in usa on my own? do no longer forget the black plague in Europe, some hundred years in the past. study a history e book, guy. Oh, by skill of ways, Pestilence is illness, no longer bugs.
DAN DAN
2012-05-09 15:20:48 UTC
I keep asking myself the same question.

It looks to be something with their nomadic religion and culture that make them confuse you as much as they can
John E
2012-05-08 23:58:10 UTC
Today we have the power of the Truth my friend. The Internet.

No lie can hide behind that beast.

Thank you for sharing



Greetings
?
2012-05-08 23:15:58 UTC
Only an octogenarian expatriate from Manchester would have the impudence to enter into a debate on Israeli history.

The role of Dir Yassin as one of the Arab villages which participated in the cutting of food and water supplies to Jerusalem's starving Jewish population, is never admitted by these purveyors of untruths.



Dir Yassin occupied a key position on the hilltop controlling access *on the only route to Jerusalem

when the cowardly British Army of Occupation refused to protect the Jewish population of Jerusalem and evacuated it's forces to allow the British forces of Brig Gen John Glubb to invade the International Zone and cut off and starve the Jewish population.

That British Army also acted against every international convention by expelling every Jew in the Old City and burning their homes and synagogues to the ground.



Arab villagers like those in Dir Yassin were complicit in this attack on Jerusalem the truth of which has only more recently been established.Arab propaganda helped to fan the flames of false accusations against the Irgun's very appropriate action.



Unfortunately Ben Gurion's hatred of Menachem Begin and the Irgun** played a role in their defamation of the Irgun in their attack on this key enemy hilltop outpost.



BBDog also trots out his old repetitive canard about the terrorists of Gaza, who bombed Israel with 12,000 Russian and Syrian Missiles but who evaporated into thin air and were replaced by several hundred children at the launching sites that Israel struck.The gas you refer to is Palestinian/British

hot air ,with the stench of baseless propaganda.
mens rea
2012-05-08 17:11:46 UTC
Not just Israelis.

Far-right wing-nuts of all nationalities push such garbage - and it belongs in the same stinking pile as Holocaust denial.



The whole 'Jewish democracy' shtick is undermined by all these Jewish crimes against humanity committed in the shadow of the Holocaust being part of the historical record.

In their place I'd be ashamed too, although not to the point of lying.
?
2012-05-09 06:07:00 UTC
Today skirts tomorrow aids...typical Zionists, always they/them.
Esther
2012-05-08 15:36:35 UTC
There was no massacre. There was a battle, and you must realize there are two sides to every story. This took place in the time of the partition plan and during the war. To call it a massacre is unfair. Would you call any battle during wartime a massacre?



I urge you to read the other side of the story. This article is chock-full of references. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/deir_yassin.html



First of all, the towns people were forewarned to leave. This article states that the truck with the loud speaker warning the people may or may not have gone into a ditch, but those were the intentions, whether or not it actually happened. Regardless, the Arabs there were fighting back. There was a battle which lasted for hours.



Several women and children were evacuated. As the article states, if the intention was to kill everyone, why would there be any sort of evacuation?



Accounts of the dead varied, but after an investigation, these are the numbers: 107 Arab civilians dead, 12 wounded in addition to 13 fighters, proving that there were Arab troops there. Why were any civilians killed? There was a great deal of confusion first of all; men dressing as women for one; and then they pretended to surrender before opening fire. After this, "some Jews killed Arab soldiers and civilians indiscriminately." This would be understandable under such circumstances. I'm not making excuses for it, but in the middle of a battle, you can see how something like that would happen, right or wrong.



Four days after reports of the incident were published, "an Arab force ambushed a Jewish convoy on the way to Hadassah Hospital, killing 77 Jews, including doctors, nurses, patients, and the director of the hospital. Another 23 people were injured. This massacre attracted little attention and is never mentioned by those who are quick to bring up Deir Yassin."



Here is the most important quote from the article:

"The Palestinians knew, despite their rhetoric to the contrary, the Jews were not trying to annihilate them; otherwise, they would not have been allowed to evacuate Tiberias, Haifa or any of the other towns captured by the Jews. Moreover, the Palestinians could find sanctuary in nearby states. The Jews, however, had no place to run had they wanted to. They were willing to fight to the death for their country. It came to that for many, because the Arabs were interested in annihilating the Jews, as Secretary-General of the Arab League Azzam Pasha made clear in an interview with the Egyptian paper Akhbar al-Yom before the war (October 11, 1947): 'It will be a war of annihilation. It will be a momentous massacre in history that will be talked about like the massacres of the Mongols or the Crusades.'"



So you see, there are two sides to every story.



@M: Neither one of us are saying that it didn't happen. What we're saying is that you are accepting the Arab version of events, when the facts are quite different. Why do you so readily accept ONLY the Arab side of the story and disregard the other well-documented side? According to that article, even Arabs at the time were saying that the numbers were lower. The figure of 1000 is deceitful propaganda.



@Til I Die: Very funny. My article may have come from the Jewish Virtual Library, but as I said, it has plenty of references. If you would take the time to click on the link, you would see that.



@M: Oh brother. The only reason I mentioned the number 1000 is because there were some propagandists who used that inflated number. Even the 254 number is inflated. The number is closer to 100. And I found another source, for your information.

http://www.2nd-thoughts.org/deir_yassin.html



Tell me please, where are you getting your information about 25 men being shot against a brick wall? That did not happen. I would like to know why Arabs are not ashamed of killing 77 doctors, nurses and patients on the way to the hospital. Is that part of normal warfare? Israeli doctors help wounded Arab terrorists, rather than let them die. Unfortunately, we cannot expect the same kindness from the Palestinians. Why is that?



And as for the Gaza War, as usual yes, Arab propaganda distorts everything. You do realize they were firing back, don't you? This was a battle which took place. Gassing civilians? Please! There were air strikes with specific targets which were hit (those specific targets were not civilians btw.) And after an investigation, it was found that the IDF is not guilty of war crimes. The ICC prosecutor decided against this war crime idea as well.
Hajj Sameer
2012-05-08 21:07:04 UTC
Read the short& s answer......she,they,never stop denying and lying.....







"They did call & warn in advance, several times to evacuate (they wanted to destroy the documents & offices, not the people). Purportedly the answer to the last call by a British commander was, I don't taken directions from Jews."



https://answersrip.com/question/index?qid=20120508164438AA6n9aE
?
2012-05-09 02:31:32 UTC
instead of hearing the arab propaganda, how about a research conducted by the palestinian university of Bier-Zeit?



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/674327/posts



no massacre. sorry to disappoint you.
anonymous
2012-05-08 15:23:31 UTC
The Zionist strategy has always been first and foremost to censor and then deny or deliberately suppress anything against the Zionist interest. As if the Zionist control of the mass media is not enough, the Jewish supremacists have not only launched an online "Milkhemet Mitzvah", if you will, against free speech on the internet too but they are now deliberately and systematically distorting once free information on the internet too.



Search the internet and try finding this on any mass media report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2DFnGI9Ac



Believe me, Ive witnessed Zionist censorship first hand. Im on my 3rd Youtube account, my previous 2 accounts were suspended because I make and post anti-Jewish supremacist videos. Toward the end of the 2nd account, I would even have videos removed within days of their post for supposed "hate speech". This is a complete joke and I suspect Israel is now paying its slaves to censor people on Youtube too.



"VivaLaRaza" and while you're at that, please post this video from now on too to complement your second video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJjSzXkm55o&feature=plcp
anonymous
2012-05-08 15:22:07 UTC
There are different stories. One highly probable one is that Arab men wearing skirts to cover up guns decided to take a stand instead of letting the Arab army proper do it. That's the one I've seen on PBS that interviewed actual survivors.



The various websites about it -- are propaganda for the most part -- put together by people who are using it for politics.



Result was a bunch of civilians dead (with guns or not). For the most part Israelis soldiers didn't encounter civilians -- they'd often left before Israelis got there. And Israelis came with horns to announce their arrival so civilians could leave if they chose. So Deir Yassin was an unusual event. Very unusual. To Israel it was considered a shameful thing, even this much was too much. That's how it's taught in Israeli schools. (So much for "denied.".)



It was targeted because of location. Jordan was trying to take over Jerusalem (which was to be an international city & had majority Jewish population). Deir Yassin is on the road there.



It has nothing to do with ethnic cleaning. Nor is it "denied." Any site claiming those -- are not about the story but about their own political agenda.



You want Deir Yassin recreated, then recreate ALL the Jewish villages in West Bank & throughout the Middle East destroyed & Jews pushed out by Arab riots.... and actual Arab countries' laws evicting them while taking their property. (People in Deir Yassin who had proof of ownership could get compensated.) They were enemy side civilians who supported an enemy that still wanted to wipe out Israel after '48 -- so they weren't invited back -- same as ANY COUNTRY in the world has ever done.



"Holy race of israelis" is an antisemitic smear that has nothing to do with israelis or judaism. That nonsense false claim of what "chosen" ever meant is so classic in antisemitism -- that you're quoting a grandchild of the original. And showing enough intolerance (acceptance of propaganda ranting) that nothing you say should be taken as fact....





ASKER - your the one spreading false info by claiming it's "denied." Making all your info very suspect.





ADD:

Michael saying something's proven your point, when it clearly is the opposite --- is obvious to other people. Do you not know this?





@Till I Die's comments

You post Holocaust denial questions in YA. Talmud has no such stuff in it, except on hate sites with fake ones. Hamas purposely fires missiles during school bus hours to target children. Their judgement is suspect, along with their so-called anger (i.e. domination goals).
anonymous
2012-05-08 15:27:05 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_UBc96u50k&feature=watch_response



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ir4_JBYZc
anonymous
2012-05-08 15:13:59 UTC
spread awareness. free palestine


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