Why does Israel exist?

Question

It seems like since Israel's founding as a country about 60 years ago, there has been a lot of death and hatred. So why does the country exist? (I know I can get this answer out of a history book but I wondered about the public perception of this country's existence)

The Synagogue near my house has a large sign that says "We stand with Israel". But after what Israel has done in these last few weeks I don't understand how anyone could continue to feel that way.

What do you think?

I'm not asking for anti-Semitic answers, I want reasoning not reaction.

Answer 1

There has been death and hatred in the Middle East long before Israel's 1948 Independence. The death and hatred in the Middle East is consistently blamed on Israel yet deaths from the Arab-Israeli Conflict make up less than 1% of all conflict related deaths in the Middle East. It's a common misconception that Israel is the problem. Arab mentality is the problem. Islam's intolerant ideology is the even bigger problem.



Look at Syria; no Jews there. Why is there an internal conflict in Syria that has killed 5 times as many people in a few years than the entire Arab-Israeli conflict has killed in its 68 years of existence? The 68-year long Arab-Israeli conflict has had 8 major wars (involving over 7 countries) with violent unrest in between, but more people have died in Syria as a result of just one war. How is this? What about the conflict in Iraq? Also no Jews there. What about the war in Yemen? When there's no Jews to fight it seems the Arabs just turn on each other.



Israel exists as the world's only Jewish nation. There are ~120 Christian majority countries in the world, 50 Muslim majority countries, 13 Buddhist majority countries and 2 Hindu majority countries, yet just 1 Jewish majority country. The Jews have been persecuted and massacred as a vulnerable minority for thousands of years and it became clear after the Holocaust that they needed to have their own independent country. The Zionist Movement had already started establishing the foundations of this country in the Jewish Biblical homeland of the Land of Israel (Eretz Yisrael) which was sparsely populated at the time and under Ottoman and later British Colonial rule, until 1948 when a UN Majority vote granted the Jews independence and British forces withdrew from the land.



A new Arab State called "Palestine" was also to be created, but the Arabs immediately declared war on the new Jewish State of Israel and tried to destroy her. After the Arabs lost the attempted war of annihilation against Israel, Israel legally annexed Arab land and the new borders were immediately recognized by the international community. The remaining land designated for "Palestine" was occupied by the Arab countries of Egypt and Jordan.



As for the "We stand with Israel" thing, my question to you is what you think Israel has done wrong. Just like the media has led you to believe that the Arab-Israeli Conflict is the main source of deaths in the Middle East (when it makes up less than 1% of Middle East conflict-related deaths) you've probably also been led to believe that Israel is some brutal tyrannical rogue state which murders by millions, bombs indiscriminately and conquers land. This is far from the truth.

Answer 2

Why do you exist?

It seems since you came into existence, there is much violence.

It must be your fault.

Just look at what you did in the past weeks.



You are a real idiot.

Israel did nothing in the past few weeks.

Violence existed before Israel, and the Arabs constant attacking of Israel is the only reason there is any violence in Israel.

Note that no Arab has ever wanted to get out of Israel into any Arab country, all of them are desperately trying to get into Israel and away from the other Arabs.

Within Israel they shoot each other in Arab towns for no reason, and are jealous of the Jews who don't shoot each other in their towns.

You are staggeringly stupid.

Answer 3

Blaming Arab fascist violence on Israel is much like blaming KKK violence on Black People.



What Israel has always done is defend itself against enemy attacks while very carefully maintaining a legal system and culture that rejects and punishes any manifestations of ethnic or cultural discrimination.



Moreover -- perceiving Middle Eastern violence as due to Israel is either an expression of massive anti-Jewish prejudice or accepting the lies of the anti-Jewish propagandist associations.

The vast vast majority of Middle Eastern violence is in conflicts with no relation to Israel whatsoever.

More people have died over the past few years of the war in Syria than in the entire history of the conflict between Arab nations and Israel.

As compared to the Middle East as a whole -- Israel is a non-story -- only maintained as a story by Arab dictators and fascist and race supremacist groups for their own bigotry and propaganda purposes.

Answer 4

Israel has always existed and jews have always lived there. It has been conquered many times and jews who lived there were either forced to convert to Christianity or Islam, be murdered or run for their lives. In most of history Jews never fought back, eg. pogroms in Russia, the holocaust and these incidents of other people conquering Israel. ( and if they did fight back, it was a small group with little or not power).



The bloodshed you talk of over the last 60 years actually began long before the modern day Israel. There are historic accounts of jews being attacked by arabs in Israel a hundred years before 1948. You have to understand that for most of history jews have been pacifists and therefore easy targets for non jews. My family are a perfect example. One side of my family were farmers in the 1800's in Israel. They lived in a village that had for centuries been Jewish, next to an arab farming village. You would think that in an ideal world that farmers would share knowledge, produce and be good neighbours. You would think wrong. The Jewish village in question was burnt to the ground 3 times by the arabs, jewish crops poisoned and burnt and Jewish farmers shot while they worked in the fields by their arab neighbours. My great grandfather and many others from that village ended up leaving and immigrating to Australlia. I asked my granfather why they never fought back and he told me that they had no access to weapons, unlike the arabs.



The reality is as follows, and the world is just beginning to get a taste of it. Muslims will not tolerate anyone living amongst them who is not muslim. 20 years ago the Christian population in arab countries was 20% now its closer to 2%, 60 years ago there were over a million Jews living in arab countries, now there are less than 1,000. In fact Israel is the ONLY country in the middle east that has a growing Christian population. Look at Europe. Arabs come there for Europeans help, and immediately demand that Europeans stop serving alcohol, stop women from going out at night, encourage women to cover up ( or else who knows what will happen to them) and slowly demand sharia law. In other words will not tolerate any other belief systems and will try and change them by any means. And unfortunately it is working and will continue to do so.

So why is Israel such a sticking point? Because for the first time in history Jews are strong, cant be forced to convert to islam and wont be swayed by islamic demands or threats.

Eventually the west will have to do the same as Israel if it wants to survive, and for your sake and Christianity's sake i hope its sooner rather than later!

Answer 5

Israel has been a country for over 3500 years, a few times during those years Israel has been conquered by other powers, that fact didn't change the status of Israel as a country and has not turned Israel to Arab land.

I have no Idea what news you are watching or what newspapers you have been reading, but over the last few months crazed Arabs have been murdering Jews left and right, that is why that large sign that says "We stand with Israel".makes perfect sense.

Answer 6

" I want reasoning not reaction."



And yet before that you say:

"But after what Israel has done in these last few weeks I don't understand how anyone could continue to feel that way. "

Which is a classic example of REACTION... on your part.



But, you claim to want reasoning...

Well, ok...

Please give me a reason why Israel's specific actions over the past few weeks means that the local synagogue should completely drop its support of Israel.

Please give me a reason why you correlate " there has been a lot of death and hatred" with the question of Israel's existence.

Answer 7

Because of the number of extremely rich Jews in the world.



If you are American you probably know about rich men who buy / own professional sports teams even though the team loses money.



They buy the teams as a sort of hobby because they love the sport or love the idea of being a being the owner of a sports team.



Well - Israel is exactly like that.



If it were not for extremely rich Jews who funded the creation of Israel it would have never existed in the first place.



The Rothschild family was against Zionism in the beginning but they were conned into supporting it and without the power of the Rothschild family the Zionist ideologues would have never amounted to more than the Flat Earth Society.



Of course since JFK was murdered and particularly since USS Liberty was attacked the Zionists have enslaved the taxpayer of the USA to be the underwriter of the money-losing Jewish State.



Jewish billionaires still play a role by corrupting elections at all levels in the USA to make sure that pro-Israel puppets are elected to continue the kosher gravy train for the entity that should have never existed in the first place and that great men like General George C. Marshal opposed.

Answer 8

Why does the U.S exist?

If you can answer this question, you can answer the "why Israeli exist" question without any problem.

Answer 9

Hello Rachel,



The Jewish state was re-created as the State of Israel because the Jewish People wanted to restore their sovereign state.



The last "indigenous" state (meaning run by the natives rather than by a foreign power) that comprised the area now called Israel and also referred to as “Palestine”, before the formation of the State of Israel, was the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea with its capital at Jerusalem (now referred to as “East Jerusalem” also “the Old City”).



You can read about the Jewish Hasmonean dynasty here:

http://www.britannica.com/topic/Hasmonean-dynasty



You can view the geographical position of the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_dynasty



You can view coins from the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_coinage



Their independence came to an end because of a Roman invasion and most, but not all, Jews were expelled to many places including Europe.



The Holocaust speeded up the Return by the Jewish People to their homeland, which had already been underway before the second world war.



"The Jewish people have maintained a well-documented, unbroken presence in Israel for well over 3,000 years" (http://arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-israel-facts/fact-1-jewish-history-israel), from before the Arab invasion and occupation. Why then do we refer to a “Return” of the Jewish People? This is because although there was an unbroken Jewish presence in the land going back to biblical times, many of the Jewish communities remaining in exile wished to Return to their homeland.



Arab peoples deal with this Return of the Jewish People, by denying that the Jewish people are “the People of the Book" of the Quran, falsely claiming the Jewish People are all descendants of converts. So while millions of Jewish men, women, and children were murdered by the Nazis for being ethnically Jewish, the Palestinians allege that the Jewish people are not the Jewish people.

The reason is to perpetrate a hoax that Jewish Israelis are foreign invaders!



Consequently, the Jewish People are the only people in this world who are falsely and perversely accused of having "stolen" their own ancestral homeland, meaning Israel.



The Palestinians come from the peoples who invaded and occupied the Jewish land of Judea, and they also take their name from the name given to the land by the Roman occupiers, when the Romans renamed as “Palæstina”, the Jewish / Israelite land called Judea / Israel. “Palestine” has never been a sovereign country, but applies to an administrative area, that originally comprised today’s Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Territories.



When the Jewish People restored their state as the "State of Israel" in 1948 (being a small area about the size that Wales is in the U.K.), this was authorised under the United Nations “Partition Plan” which separated the land between Jewish and Arab areas.

The surrounding Arab countries attacked the newly re-established Jewish state, but lost the war.



You can read about the United Nations Partition Plan, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine



Arab people were living in Palestine when the Jewish state was restored as the State of Israel, and many Palestinians became war refugees (as did many Jews from Arab countries). These refugees had owned homes there, but home ownership is not proof of entitlement to the sovereignty of the land in which you live.



The Palestinians claim Israel expelled them. Not only is this untrue, but Palestinians live in Israel, and also Israel offers them citizenship. Most Palestinians refuse this citizenship because they believe Israel should not exist.



The Palestinians have expelled the Jewish people from all areas under Palestinian control.



In 1948 the Arab countries attacked the newly re-established State of Israel with the intention of ethnically-cleansing the Jewish Community from Israel, but lost the war. Jordan then occupied the West Bank and Egypt occupied the Gaza strip; neither offered these areas to the Palestinians:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_occupation_of_the_West_Bank



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Gaza_Strip_by_Egypt



In 1967 Israel gained control of these areas and as an attempt by Israel at “land for peace”, the Palestinians were later given autonomy for the West Bank and Gaza strip by Israel as part of a peace process which anticipated further negotiations for a peace treaty.



Since then, the Palestinians:



> Refuse to negotiate any peace treaty.



> Claim the whole of Israel.



> Consider themselves at war with Israel.



> Attack Israeli Jewish civilians as policy:



The following may also be found to be helpful:



1)

(For Palestinian Terrorist attacks in 2016 scroll down to the heading “January 2016”:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict_(2015%E2%80%93present)



2)

Please scroll down the following webpage where the information is to be found under its heading: “Comments”:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/683342450/3941341



3)

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/victims.html



While there is just one Israel, there are 21 Arab plus more Muslim countries; plus Arab oil influence. So, with each member country having one vote you may not find it surprising that there have been many anti-Israel United Nations resolutions passed, including:

absurdly singling- out Jewish nationalism (Zionism) comparing it with racism (indeed a racist resolution, since repealed), and falsely and illogically alleging “occupation” and “illegal settlements”; all the areas being on land which was of the Jewish Kingdoms of Judea / Israel.



I hope this helps.



Robert.