Question:
If Israel is refusing a 2 state solution?
2009-07-09 23:56:09 UTC
Then how come palestinians have their own identity and cant access Israel?

Isn't ironic? if the west bank and gaza are part of israel then why palestinians don't have the Israeli citizenship?

So basically israel don't want them to be palestinians nor israelis?
Twelve answers:
2009-07-10 00:24:54 UTC
That is exactly what Israel wants. Israelis want to have the whole land including Gaza, east Jerusalem, West bank and Golan under their control and allow their citizens to settle there magically without annexing these places, at the same time they need cheap palestinian labor who have completely no rights so that the Palestinians won't out number the Jews and put an end to Israel's "Jewish" identity.
dandyl
2009-07-10 14:15:31 UTC
To answer you, all what Israel wants is peace and to be left allone.The Arabs have been offered a state of their own many times, and each time the answer was negative.

The Palestinians are not Israeli, they chose it that way, the Arabs that wanted to be part of Israel are very happy in Israel and are full citizens and have the same rights as everyone else

The Palestinians have actually had numerous opportunities to create an independent state, but have repeatedly rejected the offers:



In 1937, the Peel Commission proposed the partition of Palestine and the creation of an Arab state.



In 1939, the British White Paper proposed the creation of an Arab state alone, but the Arabs rejected the plan.

In 1947, the UN would have created an even larger Arab state as part of its partition plan.



From 1948 to 1967, Israel did not control the West Bank. The Palestinians could have demanded an independent state from the Jordanians.



The 1979 Egypt-Israel peace negotiations offered the Palestinians autonomy, which would almost certainly have led to full independence.



The Oslo process that began in 1993 was leading toward the creation of a Palestinian state before the Palestinians violated their commitments and scuttled the agreements.



In 2000, Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered to create a Palestinian state, but Yasser Arafat rejected the deal.



A variety of reasons have been given for why the Palestinians have in Abba Eban's words, "never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity." Historian Benny Morris has suggested that the Palestinians have religious, historical, and practical reasons for opposing an agreement with Israel. He says that "Arafat and his generation cannot give up the vision of the greater land of Israel for the Arabs. [This is true because] this is a holy land, Dar al-Islam [the world of Islam]. It was once in the hands of the Muslims, and it is inconceivable [to them] that infidels like us [the Israelis] would receive it." The Palestinians also believe that time is on their side. "They feel that demographics will defeat the Jews in one hundred or two hundred years, just like the Crusaders." The Palestinians also hope the Arabs will acquire nuclear weapons in the future that will allow them to defeat Israel. "Why should they accept a compromise that is perceived by them as unjust today?"
BillytheKid
2009-07-10 17:57:46 UTC
You have not understood it yet? Without any "ifs", Israel refuses the 2 state-solution.

And what is curious, Hamas and Fatah refuse it, too.

Now, I would like to see, how this dumb US president implements the plan rejected by all the main participants.



Israel withdrew from Gaza , she does not bear any responsiblity for arabs living there, and your screams that the arabs in Gaza should receive the Israeli citizenship only prove that you, as well as beautiful sunset, are natural blonde.



And another proof of this is that you still hope that you can fool Israel into giving her citizenship to arabs living in Judea and Samaria.

Forget it- and dye your hair. maybe after that you will be a bit more clever.
Jon
2009-07-10 15:19:13 UTC
Israel isn't refusing the two state solution, they just refuse to have one state bent on the destruction of their own. Gaza is not part of Israel. West Bank is disputed. Many Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem and the West Bank have or were offered citizenship. Many boycott elections also, especially in East Jerusalem.
jd For Neda.
2009-07-10 14:38:46 UTC
First off Bibi has repeatedly said he is ready for talks. All the Arabs have to do is adhere to agreements made years before. Israel is not denying two states. Then.

1. There is no Palestinian Identity only Arab refugees.

2. Do you think any of the Arabs still in Samaria have asked for Israel citizenship. I think he would be hanged before dark.

3. They are sworn enemies of Israel and no will not be Israeli citizens. They want them to be productive Arab neighbors and what they ask in return is just too little for the Muslims to keep the Arabs in poverty over.

Recognize Israel, disarm and join up.
DC Area Guy
2009-07-10 17:02:34 UTC
It's actually pretty simple.



The apartheid state of Israel refuses to accept the 2-state solution as requested by the entire world community. They refuse to accept it because they think that all of the land of Palestine belongs to them. In reality none of the historic land of Palestine belongs to them.



Israel is an artificial state based on racism and apartheid. The apartheid state of Israel would never exist today if it wasn't for the massive ethnic cleansing and mass murders of thousands upon thousand of innocent Palestinians who are indeed the native people of the land.



Israel is in clear violation of dozens of UN resolutions and International Laws passed by the World Community, however none of these decisions have ever been enforced.



Israel remains today as the world's last racist apartheid state on the planet. The Palestinian will eventually get all of their land back, but they need the help of the world community.
Annt Hu DeShalit
2009-07-10 13:48:06 UTC
The answers to your questions are as follows:



Neither refusing nor accepting.



Access? If they pass a security check they can enter Israel. If they want to blow up Israeli citizens, then cannot enter Israel.



Israel has not yet annexed Judea and Samaria.



There is a basic error in your definition of Israelis and Palestinians.



Before Arafat began his proselytizing, most of the Arabs from the territory of Palestine thought of themselves as members of an all-embracing Arab nation. It was the arch-terrorist Arafat who made the absurd intellectual leap to a definition of the Palestinians as a distinct people; he articulated the cause, organized for it, fought for it and brought it to the world's attention. And then, with his embezzled billions of dollars, he died of AIDS.





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Max
2009-07-10 07:08:42 UTC
Israel is very confused.

See, by all international law, if you conquer land, it's yours. So, in the wars of 1948 and 1967 Israel conquered EVERYTHING from the Suez Canal to the Jordan River, including the Golan Heights.

Now that should have been the end of it, but the UN and the rest of the world decided that this wasn't fair to the the people who were conquered. (They weren't called Palestinians. There was no such thing as Palestinians until the 1980s.) So, the rest of the world decided to pressure Israel into giving most of it back.

The Palestinians (who are Jordanian refugees) decided that they own the country of Israel, and demand it all back. This looks good in the foreign press because they are the poor and oppressed. But they weren't oppressed by Israel. When that didn't work they resorted to terrorism, which is how all Islamics fight.

So the Palestinians are terrorizing Israel, and Israel is fighting back morally (much more morally than any other country in the world. Example: in the Cast Lead battle Israel had a one-sided cease fire EVERY DAY for three hours to allow humanitarian aid to reach their enemies).



After that brief history lesson, I hope you understand Israel's position.

On the one hand, the Palestinians' claim is based on lies, but on the other Israel is a very moral nation, and would like to do what's right. Add in the variable of not bowing to terrorism and you have a real mess.

To make things more complicated Israel's international "allies" have the Palestinians' best interest at heart (and remember, they are just terrorists) but Israel depends on them economically.

So, everything is really screwed up. There is no solution. This is one conflict that will never end.
april
2009-07-10 11:51:09 UTC
Max gets a 100% A plus! Extra credit should be given for even trying to explain it in a way that even the uneducated could understand it.

The land of Israel was won in wars. Just as it has always been. Sometimes the very same land (Israel) was won by Muslim invaders. Sometimes it was won by Christian crusaders. Never before though, in the history of any nation has the world said,,, give it back. This global, news hungry, united world that we have now, united supposedly by the UN, said ok Israel is a nation again. She has her land back. Now she has to share. So Israel gives her precious land (precious not only because it is promised land of hers and it is blessed land, but also it is just a tiny, tiny sliver of land that belongs to Israel in a sea of gigantic terroristic arab lands). It is a Miracle of G-d that the land of Israel exists. Not only exists but thrives. The people that are calling themselves palestinians will have to come to terms that they do not own Israel. In fact, they do not own any land. They never have. The British gave land to a group of arabs that were living in that area for a while. This land was given to the arabs to live in while it was occupied by the British. It was never land that belonged to any such people calling themselves palestinians. I'm sorry but it was not. Just ask your occupiers. It was their land, not yours. Now it is the land of Israel. Get over it. The group of arabs who lived there must now die. Nations die. It is history. There are no Gergashites, no Hivites, no Mayans.... on and on and on. Belive in G-d or not. Say that G-d did it or just say that it is the way of the world. At any rate, Israel is. pAlestine is not.
2009-07-10 07:33:53 UTC
Israel has accepted a 2-state principle, but a Palestinian country does not exist yet.

The current status of the west bank is an occupied territory with local autonomy.
2009-07-10 08:50:19 UTC
Israel accepts a 2 state solution. Hamas the child kilers refuses as this would end their existence.
AIA
2009-07-10 14:21:05 UTC
They can easily BS, BS, and BS again. It doesn't work? continue cleansing, shelling, white phosphorus, apartheid, and cleansing again.

Let's see... would it work? No.


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