What would be your solution for Israel/Palestine problems?

Question

This question is directed at the pro-Pals as I would like to give a pro-Pal best answer, but of course everyone is free to reply.

Comments such as 'Jews need to leave' aren't any more constructive than 'Arabs need to leave' - people born on the land belong there, and neither the Jews or the Arabs are going anywhere.

Every question I've posted over the past few days has been deleted for being 'inflammatory'. It's kinda nice to know a trusted user has taken such an interest in me but my question to him personally (hi Petey my lil' cupcake) would be why are you leaving obviously anti-Semitic racist rantings intact?

Answer 1

For me, i don't have a problem with the existence of Jews here, my problem is that they came from other parts of the world and claimed part of the land as theirs. So i don't mind them living in Palestine or even my country as equal citizens.



The Levant have always been a safe haven for minorities and persecuted people, that is why it is one of the most diverse ethnically religiously and culturally(Christians represented a much larger part of the population of Lebanon(50-54%),Syria(around 30%), Jordan (around 20%) during the last century then it represents now and i don't know about Palestine but i'm sure there was much more Christians then now) . There are also Kurd, Circassians, Armenians and lots of other ethnicities . So adding another persecuted group of people who happens to follow a certain religion to the diversity ,especially that they didn't have a country ,don't seem odd to the identity and history of the Levant.





So i have 2 solutions:

1)The Jews can decide to live in any country in the Levant they want as equal citizens like they did before the world wars. (This is a long shot now i know)

2) The one state solution,in that way,the original problem,which is the Jews came and claimed part of the land theirs to rule alone would be solved. A temporary stop of the Law of return, the Palestinians refugees come back to the new state which i don't know which name it will have. The re-implementation of the law of return but modified to allow both Jews and Palestinians that were scattered around the world to come back

Answer 2

Palestinian independence.



1. Jerusalem remains in Israeli hands. All the Palestinians citizens of Jerusalem will get Israeli citizenship, unless they chose to remain Palestinins and move someplace within Palestine.



2. Land swaps- large settlements that are close to the 67 borders will be Israel terrotory, large Arab settlements inside Israel that are close to the border will become Palestinian teriritory. Arabs living in those areas would be able to chose between remaining in their homes and becoming Palestinian citizens or moving into Israel and remaining Israelis.



3. Small, secluded settlements in the West Bank will remain there and the citizens would become Palestinian citizens.



4. A tunnel will connect the West Bank and Gaza. It's not unreasonable. Many countries around the world have an exclaved territory.



If we lived in an ildeal sunshine-and-rainbows realities a one democratic state solution would've been possible. Sadly, this is real life. Jews still need an independent Jewish state that will always be their haven and Palestinian 'democracy' ends in the losing party also losing their lives.

Answer 3

Personally, I would just withdraw from a set amount of land and just them them "here, it's yours" and be done with it. With the promise, of course, that if they attack Israel, then they'll be attacked as well. Especially I would wish I could do this in 1967, to save a lot of the bs from ever happening.



Other things can be negotiated with Israel, but they have to meet Israel at the table to discuss. I'd set it that nothing is taboo, and anything can be discussed and reached an agreement on. However, preconditions from either side would not be tolerated. They don't want to talk because they aren't getting exactly what they want type excuses would only result in them not getting anything at all.



I don't know why your questions are being deleted. I don't find them to be "inflammatory", even though we are on the same side. Still, I'm a good judge I think, so really they have no reason to delete them.

Answer 4

There are only four possible solutions:



Drive the Jews into the sea and make Palestine for Arabs only



Drive the Arabs into the deserts and make Israel for Jews only



Cut the land in two, half will be Israel for the Jews, half will be Palestine for the Arabs



Arabs and Jews live in the same state, one state, for Israelis and Palestinians, from the river to the sea



The first two are horrifically unjust and evil as well as impracticle since how will you drive the Jews into the sea? Arabs tried many times to kill all the Jews in 1948, in 1967, and on Yom Kippur in 1973. And the Jews will never try to drive the Arabs into the deserts since they are too kind and compasionate for that.



The third option has been tried and has failed for 40 years. There are now over 1 million Israelis living in Judea and Samaria (the so called "west bank") with flurishing cities, businesses, homes, schools, families, et cetera. It will be very difficult and devistating to kick them out. Over 1 million Palestinians from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza now work in Israel. If the land is divided in two and a Palestinian state is created all these people will lose their jobs and businesses. The Jews will never give up Jerusalem. Do the Palestinians really think the Jews will give up Jerusalem? Would Muslims give up Mecca? The Palstinians will not sign a peace deal without Jerusalem and the Jews will endure 10 more holocausts before they give up Jerusalem to another people, and even then they will not give it up. Cutting the land of Canaan in two is also an ugly solution that implies segregation and means the loss of half of Israel for Jews and half of Palestine for Arabs.



The only problem with a one state solution is that the land would loose its character, neither the Jews or the Palestinians would have a government that would represent them.



I think there should be one nation of Canaan from the Jordan to the Mediterranean with five states inside of it: Israel, Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan. Each state would represent its population and have its own character. Israel would be mainly Jewish and Gaza mainly Palestinian. Judea would be a Jewish/Palestinian state. They would have the same currency and passport and citizenship so a resident of one state could freely travel to the other states. The Jews and the Palestinians could maintain their individual national character and retain all of Canaan. This system would be similar to the US: one nation with 50 states, or India, or Canada, or Aulstrailia. This way no one has to give up their land, or Jerusalem, or their national character, and the blessed land of Canaan does not need to be divided.

Answer 5

My idea may at first read seem drastic and bad for both sides, however in the long run it would be beneficial to both sides and would work well.



1. Move ALL Palestinians out of Gaza to the West Bank. ( yeah i know you are thinking this is silly, but not so. A 2 state solution with a Palestine split into 2 simply will NOT work.. not for the Palestinians and not for Israel).



2. Give Gaza to Israel, and all Israelis out of the West Bank.



3. Implement a 2 state solution with a huge wall between the 2... neither the israelis nor the palestinians being able to cross it. Keep it shut for a couple of generations until both sides are more curious about each other than anything else.

Answer 6

1.Israel must stop building new settlements.

2.Israel must withdraw from the West Bank and be allowed to retain West Jerusalem.

3.Palestinian guerrilla organisations must be disarmed.

4. Harmful propaganda from both sides must stop(i.e. "Jews are the sons of apes and pigs" or "Kill all the Arabs")

5. Also the Hezbollah must be forcibly disbanded.

Answer 7

There needs to be a regime change for one democratic secular state for Jews and Arabs and the Palestinian adult citizens should have the right to vote and contribute to the country's governance . All citizens should enjoy equal rights and all can live in freedom and security. That means an end to segregation, racism, ethnic cleansing, occupation and violence which the Palestinians have suffered under Zionism/Israel.

Answer 8

Have the Jews , @ least the Ashkenazi Jews move back to Eastern Europe, seeing how Ashkenazi Jews have 70% Eurasian genetics within them. I'm sure Mr. Putin sure would know what to do with those people. The other Jews, such as Sephardic, not so worried about, seeing they have lived in relative harmony with their Muslim neighbors for centuries & happen to be a lot closer, genetically speaking, to the original Hebrews of ancient Israel.

Answer 9

@ishnichmad: good answer. You forgot to mention that most of the 90,000 Arabs killed (since 1920) were combatants.



@john: In urban warfare, the Israeli civilian vs combatant casualty ratio is at least 3 times lower than USA's and UK's: http://thejewishchronicle.net/view/full_story/22210829/article-Retired-British-army-officer-says-support-for-Israel-widespread-in-his-corps



@Beautiful Sunset: Jesus isn't discussed in Jewish sources. So any allegations that "Jews describe him as" Niddah /Alien from Alpha Centaury / Commie / Whatever are unfounded (http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesus.html http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesusnarr.html )

Answer 10

Arabs must recognise Israel as a state.

Hamas, Hezbollah and all other Islamic terror groups must be destroyed\disbanded



There can't be a palestinian state without recognition of Israel.

Answer 11

beautiful sunset

there are some 1 million christian palestinians in the world (ten percent of all claimants to be palestinian).

in gaza only 1 percent of the population is christian.

in the west bank ten percent.

in israel fifteen percent of the arab population is christian.

tells you something about the degree of tolerance doesn't it!



john

total casualties amongst the arab population since 1920 is 90000 (less than syria has killed in the past two years.) some 25000 israeli's have also lost their lives

and way less than the americans in iraq vietnam and afghanistan

Answer 12

Solution one : west bank is client state of Israel

solution two : west bank is puppet government of Israel

Solution there : one state solution ?.

Answer 13

Zionists should get the f**k out of Palestine. America should give them Alaska where there's not a lot of people. They are their allies so they should take their sh*t together and no put their smelly @sses on palestinian lands

Answer 14

The two state solution ....1967 borders.......Gaza ,West Bank including East Jerusalem is the state of Palestine.......The right of return to Palestine for the Palestinian refugees ,who ever he wishes,along with compensation for both sides .......... International Guarantees for both sides.......



A 30 year TRUCE is signed between the two states ...... A TRUCE that all political parties from both sides will RESPECT....since there is NO RECOGNITION FROM BOTH SIDES OF A FINAL SOLUTION........This will lead to THE " FREEZE " OF THE CONFLICT FOR 30 YEARS.....



WE MUST ADMIT THAT....for the last 100 years both sides had FAILED TO END THE CONFLICT ,by military force ....nor by peace negotiations, ......THEN WE MUST "FREEZE" the conflict......for 30 years........let the NEW GENERATIONS TO COME FROM BOTH SIDES......THAT WILL ENJOY PEACE FOR 30 YEARS........DECIDE ......HOW ....TO END THE CONFLICT.



@ Curious 1......NO MORE SEPARATION WALLS.....BUT.... BRIDGES OF PEACE.....

Answer 15

3 State solution.

Answer 16

Israel should respect internationally mandated borders.



Israel should cease militarily protected civillian settlement in territories not within it's own internationally mandated borders.



Israel should cease to blockade, strangle and generally interfere with Gaza



Israel should cease clandestine activities within Gaza and de facto occupation of Gaza



Palestinian paramilitary groups should cease activities targetting Israel within it's internationally mandated borders.



Palestinian groups should accept that the nation of Israel exists within it's internationally mandated borders and will remain.

Answer 17

Kick out the fakinainstins ( Palestines )

Answer 18

1. israeli must leave all of palestina territory

2. end the illegal blockade of Gaza

3. stop disturb the palestinians

4. stop racist toward non-jews in israel area (i mean to the christians and muslims arab)

5. teach your young jews to be polite toward palestinians

6. LET THE UN AND THE WORLD TO HELP PALESTINE, OPEN ILLEGAL BLOCKADE OF PALESTINE

7. PALESTINE is a nation, the israeli must accept this

Answer 19

i would move them to syria. they already have a civil war there. they can fit well there and it wont break our agreement with egypt.

Answer 20

Since half of the Palestinians are Christians it would be a good start to ask for forgiveness for killing Jesus Christ.

The other Muslim half honor jesus as a holy prophet.

The Jews describe him as "the son of a niddah".

I don't exactly know what niddah means by with my experiance with the jews it must be something very dirty or filthy.

If I am wrong, please correct me.

What is a "niddah" ?

Answer 21

Israel evacuates the settlements

Israel respects the territorial integrity of Palestine

Israel appologizes for killing more civilians than any other first world country.

Answer 22

Many of the Jewish adherents in Palestine are illegal aliens, therefor by law must leave at once; the law is bigger than you and I.