Is Yerida still frowned upon in Israel?

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And Please tell me are these statements correct if not can you correct it for me? It is taken from Wiki. Thanks

In an interview from 1976, Israel's Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin identified the Israeli emigrants as "fall-outs of weaklings" (נפולת של נמושות
In an interview in 2008 Ehud Barak, the Israeli defense minister and former prime minister said that "Jews know that they can land on their feet in any corner of the world. The real test for us is to make Israel such an attractive place--cutting edge in science, education, culture, quality of life--that even American Jewish young people want to come here. If we cannot do this, even those who were born here will consciously decide to go to other places. This is a real problem."

For many years definitive data on Israeli emigration was unavailableIn The Israeli Diaspora sociologist Stephen J. Gold maintains that calculation of Jewish emigration has been a contentious issue, explaining, "Since Zionism, the philosophy that underlies the existence of the Jewish state, calls for return home of the world's Jews, the opposite movement - Israelis leaving the Jewish state to reside elsewhere - clearly presents an ideological and demographic problem."

In the past several decades, emigration (yerida) has seen a considerable increase. From 1990 to 2005, 230,000 Israelis left the country; a large proportion of these departures included people who initially immigrated to Israel and then reversed their course (48% of all post-1990 departures and even 60% of 2003 and 2004 departures were former immigrants to Israel). 8% of Jewish immigrants in the post-1990 period left Israel, while 15% of non-Jewish immigrants did. In 2005 alone, 21,500 Israelis left the country and had not yet returned at the end of 2006; among them 73% were Jews, 5% Arabs, and 22% "Others" (mostly non-Jewish immigrants from USSR). At the same time, 10,500 Israelis came back to Israel after over one year abroad; 84% were Jews, 9% Others, and 7% Arabs.

According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, as of 2005, 650,000 Israelis had left the country for over one year and not returned. Of them, 530,000 are still alive today. This number does not include the children born overseas. It should also be noted that Israeli law grants citizenship only to the first generation of children born to Israeli emigrants.

Answer 1

Cher's answer is excellent and thorough.

As an Israeli who has been living in the U.S for over 20 years, I would like to add that yerida is still frowned upon by many, especially those who were born before (or shortly after) 1948, and the newly arrived.

Still, many Israelis do leave the country temporarily. For example: My cousin completed his Ph.D at a prestigious Israeli university, and was invited to do some post-doctoral research outside of Israel, with a three-year commitment. He and his wife (who is completing her Ph.D as well) fully intend to return to Israel in three years.

Many other Israelis I know end up in the U.S or Europe in order to complete M.As and Ph.Ds, while some leave temporarily in order to make enough money which will allow them to purchase a home when they get back to Israel.

In my own community I see many Israeli families packing up their belongings and moving back to Israel, with the intention of raising their children in Israel.

Those who leave and stay away permanently do maintain close ties with their Israeli family and friends. Some do face a great deal of criticism for failing to return.

Answer 2

Thats true, many people are leaving Israel, I will do the same too very soon. I'll never come back to Israel.

I can land on my feet in any corner of the world and be ok, in less then 5 months I will not longer step a foot in Israel.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

I lived in the USA for ten years, I came back to Israel, many of my friends did the same.





Many Israelis will spend a few years abroad and return to Israel. Rather than being seen as people who abandoned their family, yordim are now regarded with a degree of empathy bordering on envy, because they have the financial and educational means to gain experience and insight beyond Israel’s small borders.



Attitudes towards aliyah and yerida, and even the very nature of aliyah and yerida, have undergone a radical transformation in the 60 years since the establishment of the state.



Jews who make aliyah may, spend as much time out of Israel as in the country. And Israelis who leave for good are no longer traitors, but - if they are successful enough - heroes. What do the comings and goings of Jews to and from Israel mean in the era of globalization? And what do they say about the durability of Zionism? The answers to these questions provide a revealing portrait of Israel at 60 and the challenges facing the Jewish state as it enters middle age.

Answer 5

This article completely misses the main reasons for emigration that I hear all the time.



First, there is a real sense of danger in Israel. People are allowing, but more subtlety encouraging their children who leave for a while, to stay gone. My mom's friend said it explicitely to me as well as my cousin. They are sad with their children gone & want them home, but are afraid & this makes them feel better that there's a better chance they will survive what comes. The hope now is that in 10 years it will be the status quo. The real hope for a future impovement any time soon is very faint. The fear is Iran & a nuclear holocaust &/or attacks from muliple sides controlled by Iran (Hezbollah, Gaza, Syria).



The other reason people leave is opportunity to pursue work. People in high level or powered careers especially academic, medical or political need to work in other countries to further them. They need to be parts of the world's mix of research & not all of it is in the tiny country of Israel.



Most of the Jews I know of even casually who've left Israel, have done so only temporarily in their own minds, even when it'd been most of their adult lives. The article doesn't look at that & assess how it fits into the picture.



Jews talk. They talk a lot. Everything gets discussed from every angle. Over & over again, looking at old & new ideas. So, I am sure this interview is barely a drop in the bucket of what the real picture is & that there are many more articles & interviews & assessments. I wouldn't stop with just this by any means, to figure out what the accurate picture is of the situation. I am sure there is an interview somewhere with Rabin saying just the opposite or looking through a different lenses. That would just be normal in the Jewish world.



I find as a big generalization, non-Jewish readers assume it's about looking for the facts to state & bring them forth as prove because a Jew said it. Jewish readers see it more as debate & look for how to take action from there. It impacts how one perceives the information, with Jews assuming that it's a bit fluid (will change with the next writer's perception) & more about the larger point.



In general I've found wiki can be very inaccurate. It definitely tends to be written by those without in depth study of a subject, so while a fact might be accurate the over picture isn't that meaningful. I've also seen completely inaccurate facts (unrelated to politics or anything controversial), so that's another reason to take it with a grain of salt. My favorite is that wiki for a long time stated that the car I owed for many years wasn't made in the model year I'd bought. I got debated with when I tried to change it & gave up.



An interesting fact that needs to be factored in...in 2000 most Israeli's I met tried to speak English & did to a decent degree. In 2008 much less tried or even could when they wanted to. It's become more insular now. This makes me wonder what a good academic would make of that, within the idea of Israelis leaving.



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There are a couple Israelis living in the US who frequent this forum. I've starred & hope they spot it to give a more intimately knowledgeable answer.



John E obviously hasn't spent time in Israel recently. That hate he speaks of doesn't exist as Jews marry each other from every country. Also, semitic isn't black or white & it's hard to tell everyone apart by "looking" them, Arab, European Jew, or Mizrahi Arab Jew. Only the Ethiopians look "black" and they are integrating nicely now.

Answer 6

Mr. Steel described only the one side of the coin.

The other is my dear the need of an "enemy" against "Israel".

This is a way to keep the Jews united.

Do you know for instance the amount of hatred between the "White" and the "Black" Jews?

I mean the Germanic European Jews from the Asian Jews?

They hate each other very much and if there is not a constant threat for both of these races, they will start fighting each other.

These differences usually lead the more "sophisticated" Germanic Jews to immigrate to more advanced counties like the South American countries like Suriname or South Africa.

Greetings

Answer 7

That's a very interesting question, Hope.

But there is a real bad thing in al of this.

You see the jews that decide to stay in Palestine usually are the least educated, very simple minded, very fascist in their way of thinking and very obnoxious too.

That's what them zionists want them to be.

Mean and greedy suns of beatches ;-)

They dont need all of them hot shot lawyers and accountants.

The thicker the better. Them ideal jew society.

No smart jews are allowed in their society.

Smart people are not easy to patronize.

Knowhatmean?

Peace and Love.Steel. Merry xmas all!



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You must try to read always between the lines whenever you are dealing with them jews girl. These folks have the truth-fobia desease since birth, (congenital is the word? not sure)