Are the arabs jealous of israel?

Question

The Arab world is following with great interest the story of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, as this would constitute an inexplicable affair within Arab societies and regimes. Why so? Because in the Arab world the leader is society and society is the leader, and therefore the dismissal of a leader is akin to bringing the whole of society down.



And yet, we can divide the Arab public into four groups in terms of their attitude to the dismissal of a serving prime minister in Israel. These different attitudes are also reflected in talkbacks on Arab websites.


1. The Anti-Semitic group – Members of this group view Jews stereotypically and claim that they are cheap and greedy, particularly when it comes to money that isn’t theirs. The common perception in this group is that Jews are manipulative and therefore also dangerous and unpredictable. “These are the Jews and this is their language,” wrote one Saudi woman.



2. The nationalistic group – Members of this group view this affair as further proof that Israel is crumbling and chocking on its own corruption, until it will disappear. It is roughly the attitude exhibited by Iranian leader Ahmadinejad. This approach argues that the Arabs don’t need to do a thing, as Israel will destroy itself, because it was born in sin. Ahmadinejad’s statements served to boost this group and provided it not only with legitimacy but also with apparent proof that it is right. This group is very powerful in the Arab world and very prevalent in the media, with every negative event in Israel prominently featured and played up. The negative aspects will always be emphasized as further proof of Israel’s expected collapse at any moment now. For example: A news story about the number of emigrants overtaking the number of immigrants here in the past year was quoted extensively on Arab websites and prompted writers to declare that the Israelis are finally fleeing.



3. The conspiratorial group – The notion that Israel’s leadership is dominated by an immense secret plot aimed at hurting the Arabs is very common in the Arab world. That is, every time we see diplomatic progress or a chance for an agreement, that same secret plot topples the prime minister or prompts new elections. “Every Israeli PM, as a condition for being elected, must have a criminal case at the Prosecutor’s Office. This case will remain closed as long as he kills Arabs in general and Palestinians in particular. Yet if this PM considers peace with the Arabs or embarks on peace talks, the case against him opens,” wrote an Arab talkbacker.



4. The reformist group – Notably, most responses on the Olmert affair came from this camp. Members of this group are astonished not because of what’s happening in Israel, but rather, because the same thing will never happen in their own countries. In this group we certainly see jealousy of Israel, of its dynamic nature, and of its vitality. This group realizes that while in Israel the public controls its rulers, in the Arab world the rulers control the public. One surfer wrote: “If police in the Arab world could do what the Israel police did, then all the Arab rulers and their associates would be brought to court over bribery, corruption, and similar charges.” He added: “Transparency is the secret of Israel’s power.”



The fourth group is the one we should be counting on; this is our hope. This group will aspire to move closer to us, first and foremost in order to change its own society. It views Israel as a positive model for imitation and future cooperation. Indeed, even when it comes to such grave affair, there are still some rays of lights for Israel.

Answer 1

great exposition !,



In a true democracy, the leaders are equals to the law like any other habitant.

the corruption of some Israeli politicians is definetively something aberrant, but I rather prefer to see the greatness of some democracy values in Israel which takes these persons to the court like any other criminal.

How many arab countries can do that ?, In fact how many countries at all can do that ?

Answer 2

As an Israeli who lives in Israel, yet doesn't try to get too emotional about things like this, I would like to proudly give my opinion regarding this question, and I am open to comments and questions, although I cannot speak entirely for my religiously, politically, and racially diverse country. I believe that before Israel gained independence in 1948, the small minority of wealthy Arabs with power were very worried by the creation of a non-Arab state as soon as they began to sense that the Palestinian Jewish community was planning to form an actual state there (forming states was a very new phenomenon in the region). Let's remember that the entire Israel of today (including Gaza and the West Bank) had a very low population. We are talking about mostly peasants, some city-dwellers, and a few nomads. City-dwellers were a good decent mix of Jews, Muslims and Christians (speakers of many languages). Although the land was ruled by the Ottomans way up there in Turkey, they pretty much stayed out of politics - Why? Because population was small and didn't need to much maintenance. People and ethno-religious communities pretty much ran things on their own. Today Israel is a semi-flourishing, modern nation state, but when it was formed, the Jews of the world were really the dirt of Europe and having Palestine was nothing to be oh so proud of (unless you were a Zionst Jew - meaning a Jew who believes that Israel is the birthplace of the culture and faith). The non-Jewish resident of the region rebelled and fought against the Jewish population on command of the strong Arab armies and rich wealthy Muslim families. It was this violently-anti Jewish state behavior (which I will not go into details) that proved that Muslim Palestinians had no intentions of being a part of the formation of this country. In the end, they essentially lost. At the same time, Israel did little to make their fellow Muslim Palestinians feel like they could be a part of the state, as the nationlism was rallied with Jewish Ideals, icons, and of course language. Although non-Jewish Israeli citizens are protected and enjoy many rights, the state at a whole doesn't do much to make them feel like Israelis - not that they want to be Israeli in any way. Violence instead of dialogue and efforts to become more involved in the bettering of the region never, and will never work. On the other hand, you have the real loosers in the battle who are the Palestinians who are still suffering from their unwillingness to create the state, and Israel's unwillingness to make them part of the country. Violence is still the patent in Gaza for winning rights and driving the Jews out, but I believe that the situation in the West Bank is improving, as the economy is improving. I believe that once a Palestinian economy is stable with a government willing to work with Israel, a state should be formed and that year of peace will be needed to gain trust between the two nations and that eventually the idea of merging the two states will not sound dangerous to anyone. But this is something that would take many years, and most people would think this idea is crazy but think about countries living in peace today which actually fought much worse and bloodier with each other than we and the Arabs are fighting!!! At least here in Israel Jews and Muslims can be friends and neighbors, but when we talk about politics things get messy. Jealousy is really found on both sides and in many ways. Israelis might be slightly jealous that the Arabs are a huge power in the region and are much larger in number. Arabs are jealous of Israelis for the things that they have accomplished and the donations that Jews have made to the world, but view them as a people who have negleted them in particular and wonder why such a great people who have done so many good things, as well as suffered so much could allow for Palestinians to be alienated. I believe that truth lies in between and that basically things didn't work out too well for the Palestinians and are still trying, but in the most wrong and violent ways to acheive their goals. Their methods are setting them back further and further, but I have faith that now the Palestinian Goverment in the West Bank is willing to make improving their lives a priority rather than destroying Israel. As far as Gaza is concerned maybe an international force could mediate but we are not ready to join the countries together, and busses people out are not an option....

Answer 3

Of course they are jealous of all the scientific accomplishmments of Israel while they keep abusing their own children and keep blaming Jews for what they do to each other and to themselves.

Arab =racist Arab=apartheid and they do nothing but project their evil onto those they hate just for existing.

Where was "apartheid Israel" when the Arabs slaughtered the Jews in Hebron in 1929?



And ufvutkfuvyuvu's, you are funny.

Every single post you have ever made was nothing but racist antisemiotism generalizing about all Jews and now you pretend to be against generalizing.

LMAO

Typical nazilib lying hypocrisy

Answer 4

Jealous of what in Israel-whom has the world's largest mall and tallest man made structure/building, the Arabs do, whom has the world's most sophisticated satellite system, the Arabs do, who are the leaders in bioenginering and biotechnology, the Arabs do, whom REALLY made the desert bloom-this according to the British under the British Mandate IN PRE-1948 Israel(Arab Palestine)-the Israel NEVER achieved this output of fruits, vegetables, and grains TO THIS DAY. The Negeve desert than and now, IS STILL a desert. The Zereel region under either Arabs or Jews HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FERTILE REGION:



http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story665.html



Incidentally, Israel is experiencing the worst FRESH water shortage ever.



Europeans were STILL in caves when Arabs built the Pyramids and gave the world the Sciences, Mathematics, Medicine, Astonomy. The Arabs created the FIRST exploding gunpowder(The Chinese gunpowder only sparled and produced colors), the Arabs produced the first writing parchments-forerunner of paper.



GEE, the Israelies-they are more advanced at military maneuvers, killing, and stealing land. They use human shields(11 year old Palestinian boy-Jan 2008), mass graves(witnessed by Amnesty International, cluster and phosphorous bombs, torture and kill innocent prisoners, kill civilian men, women and childre(whether their or Arab statistics(3/4 were civilians), kill US peace activists(i.e.-Rachael Corrie),

bulldoze homes(in and out of Israel), build ILLEGAL JEWISH ONLY buffer zones and settlements on stolen land, blow up schools(in attendance, churches, hospitals, and UN buildings looking for NON existent terrrorists.Do you realize Likud was the former murderous Jewish terrorist group, IRGUN-Actually labeled as such along with the Stern Gang, Lehi, Haganah, and several others. The Irgun killed MORE ARABS than ALL the so called Arab terrorist killed Jews COMBINED and they were only one of many.Any more advanced and they will kill all the Arabs and steal all their land. They may just be off balance enough to use the atomic bomb.



Israel what is your peace plan-it doesn't seem to inlude the Palestinians:



The King David Massacre

The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh

YEHIDA MASSACRE

KHISAS MASSACRE

QAZAZA MASSACRE

The Semiramis Hotel Massacre

The Massacre at Dair Yasin

NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE

THE TANTURA MASSACRE

BEIT DARAS MASSACRE

THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE

DAWAYMA MASSACRE

HOULA MASSACRE

SHARAFAT MASSACRE

Salha Massacre

The Massacre at Qibya

KAFR QASEM MASSACRE

Khan Yunis Massacre

The Massacre in Gaza City

AL-SAMMOU' MASSACRE

Aitharoun Massacre

Kawnin Massacre

Hanin Massacre

Bint Jbeil Massacre

Abbasieh Massacre

Adloun Massacre

Saida Massacre

Fakhani Massacre

Beirut Massacre Sabra And Shatila Massacre

Jibsheet Massacre

Sohmor Massacre

Seer Al Garbiah

Maaraka Massacres

Zrariah Massacre

Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre

Jibaa Massacre

Yohmor Massacre

Tiri massacre

Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre

Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre

OYON QARA MASSACRE

Siddiqine Massacre

AL-AQSA MOSQUE MASSACRE

THE IBRAHIMI MOSQUE MASSACRE

THE JABALIA MASSACRE

Aramta Massacre

ERETZ CHECKPOINT MASSACRE

Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre

Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre

Mnsuriah Massacre

The Sohmor Second Massacre

Nabatyaih Massacre

Qana Massacre

Trqumia Massacre

Janta Massacre

24 Of June 1999 Massacres

Western Bekaa villages Massacre

Gaza "Cast lead operation" Massacre



Israel is the hub of prostitution(legal there) and human trsfficking of women, Arabs are second class citizens, their land stolen through corrupt use of emminent domain, their homes bulldozed-Israel proper, Holly sites visited at separate times for Jews and Arabs,East Arab Jerusalem walled off from the Arab West Bank owners, no "RIGHT of return" for Arab Palestinians-Israel is the only country on earth refusing this-Germany and Arab countries have allowed the Jews to return.Did you want the whole list or just thetop 100?

Answer 5

Omer For me

as you know I'm an Arab

and I can tell you it depends

Actually

For Palestinians

Yes Of course they are Jealous No doubt

They say that Israelis has taken their country

so What do you expect

Yes they are Jealous



But for us

Egyptians:

We have no problems with Israel

we are living peacefully with each other

so why to envy and Jealousy???



We have nothing with you



For Morocco ,Algeria...etc

They barely knows about the arabs

and they have no Political Opinions as well

so Ofcourse no they aren't Jealous



For the other side Bahrain,Qatar,Kuwait,Emirates..etc



They are Jealous of other Arabs

Who are so poor but They are Very effective in the political Reviews



So they are having problems with other arabs not with Israel





For Iran

Which isn't an Arabian Country

They are jealous of:

Us,UK,Israel...etc

and any powerful country except Russian Because they help them

in Nuclear Researches and so on



So the real problem is with Palestine

& yes I admit that:

Palestine,Jpordan,Syria,Lebanon

are Jealous

any other country NOPE

Answer 6

One word, no.



The question is ridiculous. They have nothing to be "jealous" of.



-Israel has a well established Jewish Mafia base responsible for illegal acts in the US. (Most Jewish Mobsters fled to Israel to escape prosecution)

-Israel also has a disturbing sex slave market involving eastern european girls who are illegally smuggled into "Israel" and then sold off.

-There ministers are almost always involved in fraud if not an extramarital affair (as well as rape)

-The religious right in the country is NOT controllable and carry expensive guns that they even use on there own police

-The right go about fighting over car parks every other week, disturbing the peace in Jerusalem

-There civil society compared to western countries is not good. A Jews cannot legally marry a Palestinian, Muslim or Christian without living the country first

-Rabbis have been caught in US (on tape) trying to have child sex, when caught they flee to Israel (youtube link is still up for this)

-Conflict and appearance of preferential treatment to certain groups of Jews over other is uncommon (namely white Askanazi Jews)



And I have not even started to talk about the "Palestinian" demographic threat that "Israel" is facing, which makes Israel becoming a Arab state within 50 years a real possibility.



Not to mention the occupation that the whole world is against. Which of course in-turn has damaged Israel's image to the extent that it is sometimes referred to the most "hated" nation in the world.



So again, Arabs would not have anything to be jealous over Israel. They have there own pitty arguments to fight over (sunni-shia etc).



There going along at a steady pace in terms of development. The King of KSA is focusing more on education and business. Has allowed a little progress (not enough) in terms of womens rights. But that will takes its time.



They get as much weapons as Israel, especially considering that Saudi Arabia now have a more sophisticated army now then ever before which spends three fold more on there defence budget compared to Israel.



Jordon and Egypt kind similar amounts of non-military aid, as well as special access to sophisticated US arms for being a Majory non nato ally.



*And considering that every Muslim nation would defend Mecca and Medina from attack anyway, this is something Israel is really scared off, or even "jealous" of.



Peace.

Answer 7

What a delightfully "semitic" musing!



Only a Zionist could ignore the terrorism, murder, theft of land , deployment of apartheid policies, warsaw ghettoising of the Palestinians and illegal use of inhumane weaponry against civilians in Gaza and Lebanon by claiming that the world's outrage against israel is merely because of jealousy!



Olmert is in any case just another crook in a long line stretching from the terrorist murderer of British women and children Begin through the rapist Katsav and fraudster Sharon to the latest bunch of shameless thieves in the israeli cabinet.





Within 60 years ersatz israel has turned into a world pariah notorious for people trafficking, copyright theft, cruel pornography and the shameless hustling and begging for handouts from the USA taxpayer - what's to be jealous of silly boy!

Answer 8

I honestly don't know what to say but that everything you have written in completely correct. I may even refer back to your question in the future when discussing Israel among my friends.



YEs, the Arab world is jealous of Israel. Think of it as brother two brothers living side by side. One brother's house is 3 story's tall with marble floors and a nice happy family, all with employment. The other is a run down, one story hut full of corruption, inequality and unemployment. If I was the latter, I know I'd be jealous!



You get me?

Answer 9

Of course they are. In less than 60 years, Israel surpassed anything anyone had done in that backward region. If Muslims spent as much time trying to improve their cultures as they do hating others, fighting over sand, ruining the future for their children and making chaos in the world, they might actually drag themselves out of the 7th Century.



Below, Israel IS part of the Western world. And they are our closest ally and second most powerful military in the West. What are you talking about?

Answer 10

yes, the jews have invented most of the best technology on this planet.

computers, better cellphones, camera phones, electric cars, medicine, nuclear technology, scientific laws + equations, microsoft, and intel



there are over 139 nobel prizes won by the jews, and about 7 prizes won by the muslims.

Answer 11

No, Israel is jealous that they are not part of the West, that's why they join all sporting and music events here. ;)

Answer 12

Maybe they are of how rich the jews are, but I am not.

I want the Jews in Palestine to stop executing little kids and old folks just for the kicks.

I want the nazi way thinking to die. I can stand watching them creaps throwing Thermite bombs on schools, hospitals and unarmed civilians.



I guess I am too patriotic to like my country having relations with a country that its President is accused of raping his secretaries.

I felt real bad when I learned that Maddoff transferred all the loot from the NYSE to some special banks in TelAviv.

There are many things I feel disgusted of but I am sure you know what is the worst of them all.

Use your imagination boy.



The Machine

Answer 13

Frankly, there's nothing to be jealous of. Love of money and belief that your race is the only "pure race" is not progressive today in the 21st century.



Our problem is that in the 20th CENTURY. An illegal nation was formed on the basis of religion. The claim of said religion was about 2,000 years old.



You're confusing jealousy with hatred. We are trying to free the land and end years of mass murder, apartheid, war and injustice.



Free Palestine.

Answer 14

You gotta be kiddin us little dude!

Noone likes wastelands why do you think israel is the exception?

Read and weep

http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/results/rankings/2009/



here's a nice jew doctor. Nobel prize winner

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/21/doctors-israeli-torture-yoram-blachar-resign



have phun



Steel

Answer 15

all this place does is give venue for hate. rays of light for israel? are you kidding they are incredible powerful and lucky they have the power and support to pull of the major crimes they do including stealing land, establishing settlements on stolen land, and of course the war crimes. rays of light for israel, u got to be kidding me..

Answer 16

I suspect it's all of the above. That bastard Ahmadinejad should go walk into some white phosphorous.



Kudos for asking a serious question.

Answer 17

If they were would they be trying so hard to destroy Israel instead of taking Israel?

Answer 18

What's there to be jealous about? Their looks? Smell?

Answer 19

no they aren't jealous they are only dyeing from their bullets

Answer 20

zionists are greatest threat to world peace.

this terrorism (zionism) must end .

its a shame to humanity !

and all those sick minds who are supporting zionists,must remember that cruelity and injustice wont last long and i pray to GOD that they must think logically and stop supporting these murderers.

Answer 21

yes because our leaders steal people's money and you do better you steal people lands, we fight with each other and you are unite to kill all your neighbors, and of course we are very bad when it comes to lie, we can't claims that land on mediterranean sea with many rivers and surrounded by the oldest civilizations in history (land without people) we can't think in this way not in million years.

Answer 22

No we are not, they colonized palestine and we are trying to free it.