Question:
If Israel is a secular democracy, why do they host the Star Of David on their flag?
EURI TARDED
2015-04-21 12:27:58 UTC
I admit, I could very well be mistaken, and I in no way am angling into religion bashing.
This is a follow up question I've asked in the past if Israel was a theocracy. The answer I recieved was no, they are a secular democracy, and Israel has many Arabs and "400" mosques.
So, If that is true --which I believe it is true-- then why, as i asked, does the nations flag host the star of david?
Six answers:
Skyline
2015-04-21 13:16:12 UTC
Many European secular democracies have Christian crosses on their flags.

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"Why is the star of david on israel's flag if, supposedly, Israel's not a jewish country?"



This is a tricky one. Israel is a Jewish country, but their government is fundamentally secular. Israel is Jewish in the sense that 75% of the population is Jewish, on shabbat there's no shops or buses, their weekend days are Friday and Saturday to make way each week for shabbat, Holocaust memorial day is nationally observed in Israel and is of great importance and the Jewish holidays are national holidays.



In their own laws, Israel is defined as a "Jewish and democratic state", making it a Jewish nation. However this doesn't mean that it must be a theocracy like Iran. Israel has Judaism as the state religion in the same way the the UK has the Church of England as the state religion, yet is governed in a completely secular way with full religious freedoms for all.
Kini
2015-04-21 17:27:02 UTC
How can they be a democracy when they ban people with dissident views from speaking in public and effectively have a Warsaw ghetto in Gaza as well as a military occupation of Palestinian territories and not give your own Arab citizens full rights? You cant govern by religious beliefs and call yourself a democracy. You are a theocracy. The same as Iran. The democracy is in name only because Israel is run by British and American Jews.
kaganate
2015-04-21 14:32:29 UTC
The shield of David is the heraldry of the Jewish people (aka "Hebrews" aka "children of Israel").



The shield of David is not a religious sign in way the cross is --

it is the sign of the "once and future" kingly family of Israel -- much like the Red Dragon of the Welsh.



Jews are a national group and even when they lived as minorities elsewhere, they were for most of history treated as a separate national group --

In fact, the laws of most European countries with respect to Jews are the model for the American relationship with the Native American Nations as "domestic dependent nations"



Israel is the land of "the children of Israel" ie the Jewish land (in the same manner that Ireland is the land of the Irish, Ukraine is the land of the Ukranians, Uzbekistan is the land of the Uzbeks)



(ofcourse, it may be worth noting that many of the allegedly secular nations of Europe have the cross on their flag -- so the use of a religious symbol is not determinitive for the character of the government)



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EDIT -

to your last note --



Israel IS the Jewish country.

That was largely the point behind its establishment in 1920 --

when Turkey was divided among he native populations of the middle east, based on proportional occupation -- one small country was created for the Jews and a massive landmass for the Arabs - about 19 countries most of which are individualy substantialy larger than Israel.



Most countries in the world have a defining nationality and then other minority groups.

Thus,

Ukraine has a large population of Russians and a small population of Turkmen.

Uzbekistan has a large population of Kirghis, and Kirghistan has a large population of Uzbeks...

Russia has something like 70 minority nations.



Likewise Israel is the Jewish country and it has a large population of Arabs, and small populations of Greeks, Armenians, and Cirkessians.
BMCR
2015-04-21 12:30:58 UTC
Your question doesn't make sense.



Why is having a symbol connected with religion in any way negate whether a country is a secular democracy or not?



American currency has an explicit religious statement on it. Does that mean the USA is not a secular democracy?
Shay p
2015-04-21 15:58:23 UTC
Secular it is, Israel has no state religion, and all faiths enjoy freedom of worship.



Why star of David, because we want it to be there !!!
Lucius Flavius Silva
2015-04-21 15:19:23 UTC
It is something of a matter of opinion as to whether Israel is a secular democracy.



My educated and objective opinion on the matter as an expert is that Israel is neither a democracy nor is it secular.



In short Israel is more of an hypocrisy than a democracy.



There are also several theories about the so-called star of David.



First of all it is not in the Torah and can not be found in any archeological locations in Palestine.



In the times of true Judaism before the Talmudic era in which we now find ourselves the so-called star of David was not a "Jewish" symbol at all.



The so-called star of David was the "Red Shield" symbol of the diabolical Rothschild financial dynasty. The name Rothschild comes from the combination of German words for "red" and "shield".



Since the Rothschild family signed on as a benefactor for Zionism and were instrumental in helping the atheist Zionists to circumvent all international protocols and confiscate by way of subterfuge the land of Palestine it is only fitting that a truly non-religious and some would argue anti-religious symbol such as the one selected was chosen for the flag of the least liked political entity on the planet as temporary as it may be.



Few Zionist either know or admit to the real history of Zionism so you are better off to ignore their attempts to justify the flag or anything else.


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