Question:
Were Muslims who lived in Palestine arabs?
2012-04-10 06:35:57 UTC
Arabs have been for decades repeating that "Palestine is a Muslim land", and we are so accustomed to think hat being a Muslim means first of all being Arab that our brain automatically makes the conclusion: if Palestine was Muslim, then it was Arab.

But the Arabs lost Palestine to Turks only 300 years after they conquered it in the 7th century.
Since then, Palestine was ruled by Turks, Crusaders, Mongols, again Turks...

Years Ruler
970-976 Turkish .
1070-1080 Turkish Seljuq Turks conquer Palestine.
1099 Crusaders The Crusaders conquer Jerusalem, massacre the Jewish and Muslim populations; reign in parts of Palestine until 1291.
1187 Crusaders Saladin of Damascus, a Kurd, captures Jerusalem and the greater part of Palestine.
1244 Mongolian The Kharezmians, instigated by Genghis Khan, invade Palestine; Jerusalem's population is slaughtered, the city sacked.
1260 Egyptian Mameluk Sultans of Egypt defeat Mongols at Ain Jalut, in Palestine; their reign begins.
1299-1303 Mongolian Mongol invasion.
1516-1517 Turkish The Ottomans conquer Palestine.
1799 French Napoleon conquers Palestine, but is defeated at Acre.
1831 Egyptian Ibrahim Pasha, adopted son of Egypt's Viceroy, occupies Palestine.
1840 Turkish rule restored.

1917-1918 British Allies occupy the whole of Palestine, east and west of the Jordan River.

Of course, after every invasion, Palestine was flooded by the peasants, merchants, workers and government officials from the country that currently ruled it.

Do you believe that Arabs remained a majority in Palestine a 1000 years after they lost it?
I think it´s absolutely impossible.
So, the population of Palestine was in their majority Muslim- but by no means was it Arab.
Eight answers:
Esther
2012-04-10 09:41:25 UTC
They can claim whatever lies they want to claim. The fact remains: they were offered Jordan, and they took it. They were offered their own Palestinian state, and they refused because they didn't want to live peacefully alongside of Jews. When they went to war with the new Israel in 1948, they lost. Ever since they've been crying. They thought they were going to be able to violently get the Jews out of the ME and have it all to themselves. Since they didn't get their way, all they can do is whine and make up lies about how they've been there since the beginning of time, Jews this, Jews that, the big bad IDF, wah, wah, wah. And yet every time they're offered their own state, they refuse. I think they like to cry. It's become their occupation.
Sidon
2012-04-10 15:09:28 UTC
I think Jews are also sometimes guilty of mixing ethnicity and religion sometimes.



Oh We Poor Arabs-

An Arab who says Moses was Palestinian is an idiot, the stories of Beni Israel (children of Israel) are the most common in the Quran. Muslim literally means "one who has submitted his will to God" so anyone who submits to the will of God is called a Muslim hence "the Moses was a Muslim" thing.
SAMP player
2012-04-10 17:36:06 UTC
Ummm...

So if Palestine belongs to Jews because they lived in it 3000 years ago, does that mean some parts of Egypt also belongs to the Jews ? Jews and Moses were originally from Egypt, so Jews now have the right to get some parts of Egypt ? Or does that make Egypt has the right to get Palestine since Moses and the first Jews were Egyptians and they lived in Palestine ?

The 3000 years ago Jews inhabitants of Palestine were Egyptians, the Jews who made the 1948 state were mostly from Europe. So the Jews who live now adays in Israel have no right to claim this land is theirs, Egypt has to get back Palestine since Egyptian Jews lived there 3000 years ago.

You see now how your logic makes no sense at all ?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

According to Wikipedia, 700,000 Arabs were expelled from Palestinian lands in 1948, so obviously Arabs were always the majority.



Stop trying to prove something that never existed. No one in the world will believe the Zionist logic. Try as hard as you can but after all, all of your attempts will be crowned with failure.
2012-04-10 13:47:13 UTC
Not a chance. And Arabs know this - and have always known.



Sami Hadawi was the man who dedicated his life to prove that "Zionists captured Palestine". In 1952, he became a land specialist for the United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine in New York. His job was to determine the extent of property that Palestinian refugees left behind after the 1948 War. This led him to co-found the Palestinian Information Office in 1959 and then two Arab League offices in the United States. His final work years were as Director of the Institute for Palestine Studies(IPS) in Beirut. He wrote numerous articles and books , among which the most well-known is "Land ownership in Palestine". Hope no one would suspect him in sympathies to Israel? This is what he wrote.



"In 1918, Palestine had the population of about 700,000 inhabitants, of whom 574,000 were Moslems, 70,000 were Christians and 56,000 were Jews (Hadawi Sami, Land Ownership in Palestine, The Palestine Arab Refugee Office, 1957, p.7).

Sami Hadawi was honest and he said the truth; 574,000 of the inhabitants of Palestine in 1918 were Moslems. Not "Arabs", but "Moslems", which included Turks, Albanians, Circassians and many other Muslim people who were brought to Palestine by Turks from all sides of the immense Turkish Empire. Arabs number in Palestine was just 10,000 people. That is all. Others were Muslims- but not Arabs.



And that story about arabs being "always the majority in Palestine" is just an arab propagandistic lie.A lie, as is well-known, is the weapon of the weak. The strong prefer truth.
2012-04-10 13:40:56 UTC
Of course it´s impossible.



The "proofs" arabs give for them being "the rightful owners of Palestine" can be described as follows:



Arabs: when Jews came to Palestine, some people lived there? So, we Arabs, are the rightful owners of Palestine.

The bewildered world: but were these people Arabs?

The Arabs: No, but it does not matter. They lived there before Jews, so we are the rightful owners of Palestine.

The bewildered world: but can you provide some proofs that you are in any way related to the people who lived in Palestine before you came there?

Arabs: of course, read the Koran, it says clearly that Moses was Muslim, as well as Jesus Christ. Were Moses and Jesus Palestinians? Of course. Here you are!

The bewildered world: Yes, they were Palestinians, but they were neither Arabs nor Muslims, they were Jews!

Arabs: What??? You don´t respect our Koran? You insult our Prophet? Don´t you know that our Koran forbids us to lie ? Are you a racist?

The bewildered world: No, no, by no means, but...

Arabs: Then shut up and believe what we tell you! Islam means peace, but only if you don´t transgress, and you´re transgressing. And don´t forget: we have oil and we are now almost 10% of the population of Europe. And one thing more. Do you remember what happened to Van Gaugh? You wanna be next?

The bewildered (and scared) world: No, Sir!

Arabs: Then remember it well: We, the Arabs, are the rightful owners of Palestine.
Billy Joe Jim Bob
2012-04-10 15:15:24 UTC
I don't get your point, conquering doesn't mean changing the race like you Zionists want to do and will never achieve, Palestinians have been living in the area of Palestine way before your Moses brought over the israelites from Egypt, that's the point you should really be muling on.
Kevin7
2012-04-13 16:24:01 UTC
Esther is right!
?
2012-04-10 18:00:23 UTC
They were Turks!


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